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i know she's been fucked on akabur's games and spin-offs from akabur's games.
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I agree that this game's development has been a clusterfuck, but it's really weird to me how passionately angry people get on these forums about games they're being provided for free. If you're a patron then I get complaining, but the devs don't have any obligation to any of us.
nah actually the criticism is even more valid, since the only thing you consume it's time instead of money by playing this.
If the game is bad you can start wondering why people pay for this shit
Supporter will try to rationalize the game due to their investment or the sunk cost fallacy or whatever they think to say "money well spent, good game"
If the game is bad you can start wondering why people pay for this shit
Supporter will try to rationalize the game due to their investment or the sunk cost fallacy or whatever they think to say "money well spent, good game"
I agree with you in general.
But for me, this game is in legendary tier.
I'm not angry at this game, it's just funny to see how the dev will fuck their supporters over and over. Also, I think it's a good thing that we let messages for new people to don't get tricked by this game.
Now see this is a better direction for the conversation and something I want to hear more about, and talk about. I like to be informed about these things, and I will admit that I am considering buying into this game. But as such I also want to make a rational choice based on actual information, and not based on people personally feeling slighted on a forum.
DownTheDrain wasn't wrong that I'm a fan, but that also means I have standards regarding what I consume from it, and I've read a lot of posts both on here and on Wands and Witches. And few posts are constructive in any way, or truly informs about anything else than personal feelings and opinions.
If you've had a shitty experience and want to help others avoid a similar experience, you need equal amount of facts/information to the amount of emotional response. So I've cobbled together that people are displeased at the total development time with this game, "lackluster" updates(seems purely opinionated based on personal best preference) and the feeling of it not reaching an end any time soon. I know that a lot of people dislike that they restarted the plot (old vs new plot), and yet half of those people also seems to agree that the old plot was BAD, bad.
As for being a Patreon, that is supporting the devs and being allowed to share opinions. You pay for a subscription you can cancel, and as long as the game isn't abandoned you can even receive the game for free, according to the devs. Now if the game doesn't end up free in the end I can understand the anger at both devs and the annoyance that people have been willing to pay them during the development(because then the argument that the Patreons are being fooled would be true), but until such a thing actually happens isn't that opinion simply your own?
So I actually want to, if this truly is such a villian of a dev as people say, be convinced. So can you or someone else tell me a bit more about what's going on before I decide what to do with my money?
I mean, it's just product of disappointment that yet another promising game ends up in milking mode rather than ever getting finished because actually finishing the game would mean end to milking and needing to actually create something new that may or may not be as popular as the current game.
->The game is 8 years old.So I actually want to, if this truly is such a villian of a dev as people say, be convinced. So can you or someone else tell me a bit more about what's going on before I decide what to do with my money?
->1 sex scene with one of the main girl.
........ I take it you completely missed the point of my posts. Where are the details?
The game is 8 years old...... okay your point? There are old games that have been around for 15-20 years and are still developed to this day. I seriously doubt I could spend enough money on Patreon(which I probably wont anyway, as I'm considering buying all current and future BETA and ALPHA versions with a one-time payment on Itch, which renders any money-over-time arguments more or less moot.) that can come close to the sum of money I've spent on MMORPG subscriptions since I was 15, or heck even lootcrates. And those are a generally a shitty investment of money vs enjoyment if you ask me.
So there is 1 sex scene with a main girl? I find that a good thing. Would I like more, and specifically for whomever I find as best waifu? Sure, most definitely even but that doesn't make Sad Crab a shitty dev, that only tells me you're salty over whatever it is you want doesn't exist in the game.
If that's it then I seriously question if there is any legitimacy to what is said badly about Sad Crab, and proves my original conclusion that the majority of this was people feeling personally slighted and wants to try to ruin the game for other people, the devs included.
(Edit: Made a mistake here, thought you had defended the devs from bile but it turned out to be the the other way around, so edited out this sentence.
) So obviously something made you lose faith in them(the devs), and if those two points are it then you need to elaborate a little for it to make any sense. You don't have to tell me anything of course, but 2 sentences without details fail to become the mic-drop moment it seems you think they are.
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I mean if you can't understand the issue with my point, you're either trolling or I dunno the amount of cope......... I take it you completely missed the point of my posts. Where are the details?
The game is 8 years old...... okay your point? There are old games that have been around for 15-20 years and are still developed to this day. I seriously doubt I could spend enough money on Patreon(which I probably wont anyway, as I'm considering buying all current and future BETA and ALPHA versions with a one-time payment on Itch, which renders any money-over-time arguments more or less moot.) that can come close to the sum of money I've spent on MMORPG subscriptions since I was 15, or heck even lootcrates. And those are a generally a shitty investment of money vs enjoyment if you ask me.
So there is 1 sex scene with a main girl? I find that a good thing. Would I like more, and specifically for whomever I find as best waifu? Sure, most definitely even but that doesn't make Sad Crab a shitty dev, that only tells me you're salty over whatever it is you want doesn't exist in the game.
If that's it then I seriously question if there is any legitimacy to what is said badly about Sad Crab, and proves my original conclusion that the majority of this was people feeling personally slighted and wants to try to ruin the game for other people, the devs included.
(Edit: Made a mistake here, thought you had defended the devs from bile but it turned out to be the the other way around, so edited out this sentence.
Funny that you mention understanding, because it seems I'm not getting through with what I'm writing.
Something isn't necessarily an issue just because someone says so. I'm pretty sure I get your point, and I'm claiming that it lacks details to be anything but personal opinion you try to shove onto others. I'm trying to tell you to elaborate not because I do not understand, but because as two single sentences they tell me nothing except that's your opinion.
Let me try to phrase it like this instead, because I am not trying to troll you nor cope with anything but actually trying to find out if I should be worried about my possible future purchase, through YOUR experience with the game:
Why, for YOU, is the games development age of 8 years a problem?
Why, for YOU, is there being 1 main girl sex scene a problem?
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There is no issue for me to understand, because for me it isn't an issue.
Hopefully I was more clear this time, and again if you don't want to answer that's fine too. I can move on with my life even without those answers. It's funny that I only said 2 simple sentances.Funny that you mention understanding, because it seems I'm not getting through with what I'm writing.
Something isn't necessarily an issue just because someone says so. I'm pretty sure I get your point, and I'm claiming that it lacks details to be anything but personal opinion you try to shove onto others. I'm trying to tell you to elaborate not because I do not understand, but because as two single sentences they tell me nothing except that's your opinion.
Let me try to phrase it like this instead, because I am not trying to troll you nor cope with anything but actually trying to find out if I should be worried about my possible future purchase, through YOUR experience with the game:
Why, for YOU, is the games development age of 8 years a problem?
Why, for YOU, is there being 1 main girl sex scene a problem?
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There is no issue for me to understand, because for me it isn't an issue.
And yet you took them individually without figuring out maybe linking them together might help.
So yeah, don't have more time to spend if making a logical connection is already too hard.
........*sigh* Why do I even bother? I don't even know what to say to you anymore. Are you pulling my leg or are you truly this oblivious? I'll take that as I'll be moving on without the answers.
Let's just stop this, you're obviously not going to answer me and instead heckle me, oblivious to how you're presenting yourself.I'm not trolling you, I'm not picking a fight, I was just asking you to further explain your discontent. What sort of person are you, that you think that your extremely simple and basic reasons is in any way hard to understand? I even asked if those two reasons was it, and a simple "yes" would have sufficed. Instead you blame me for what you yourself missed....... THREE TIMES. This is hilarious, and if it weren't for the fact that it went over your head THRICE, I'd still think you're joking with me.
But okay, I get it, you're not joking. You actually seem to believe I don't understand you and your advanced, complex rocket science level 2 reasons for being bitter. So let's do this instead:
I get it, you're pissy because they've only made 1 puny sex scene with 1 lonely measly main character in 8 years, and you think that because of that the devs a money milking bastards.
Your very simple reason for not liking the devs was obvious from your first post quoting me, you know. But sincerely, and I know this will sound insincere but I mean it:
I apologize for thinking it was possible to have a conversation with you, and I will leave you alone.
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If anyone besides Drea2 feels like like explaining their personal experience with the game in more detail feel free to do so.
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That is the only logical conclusion when development slows to a crawl after Patreon money starts rolling in. Just like with every other money-milking game that starts off well, but then "mysteriously" slows to single digit percents of the original progress.
I'm a programmer, so I know shitty codebases can be a headache, but there is a limit to how far that excuse can stretch, too. Yet it is the usual excuse given when there's suddenly half year to a year completele pause in development with these milking schemes. And yet even after that excuse is spent, the development rarely if ever gets any faster.
I have nothing against projects that take long. I've played Dwarf Fortress on and off and its development has taken more than half my life. I DO have a problem with projects that milk money with very little to show for it year in, year out.
Thanks for elaborating.
I work as a test engineer and had similar experiences and thus know what you mean, and that's one reason to why I'm considering the one time payment on Itch instead of the Patreon subscription. I played the public version some time back and now played the version on here, and wanted to be able to come back to it over time as it progresses no matter how slowly, until it's finished or until it's abandoned which is a risk in the business.
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this gold mine abandoned? get out of here.
Can summarize the opinions pretty much as:IF it happens or IF it doesn't happen(game being abandoned), is something that will or will not happen regardless of our personal opinions.
1) some people feel it is taking to long for the volume of content that is added
2) some people don't care about that and just take it as it comes
3) some in both groups hate that the other group doesn't agree with them
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Greetings, wizards and witches!
Another development cycle has been finished, so it’s time to share some progress on the development of our beloved Innocent Witches. Today we’ve got the latest updates and future plans for you.
First, an art preview (available in the next post). This time, it’s a scene at the table for romantic dates with waifus who’ve made their return recently in the story. Each one gets her own table decoration. The preview features art for dates with Hermione.
Let’s briefly go over the latest developments in Innocent Witches.
We’re always aiming to make the game interface more user-friendly, taking your feedback and comments into account. This dev. cycle we made several changes to improve the user experience. One notable addition is the addition of the day of the week next to the time of day. We hope this makes the gameplay more convenient.
Another change is updating the old inventory art to better match the rest of the interface by removing unused elements. This small but important change keeps the game’s style consistent.
We also added an exit button to the save/load screen. Now you don’t need extra clicks to exit the game after saving your progress. This change simplifies the overall process, especially for those who value every second of their time.
Besides these improvements, we’ve been fixing bugs discovered after the last update. For example, we tweaked Snape’s minions in the headmaster’s office to match the full-sized character. This fix not only removes visual imperfections but also makes the game world more consistent. We also fixed some other art issues, like uncolored spots at Hagrid’s hut entrance and inconsistencies with shadows for some minions in the Headmaster’s office. These corrections make the art more polished, enhancing the overall immersion in Innocent Witches.
On the texts side, we’ve finished translating the side quest texts for version 0.11B, and now the editing process begins. This is crucial because we want the dialogues and descriptions to be accurate, engaging, and easy to follow. We work on every aspect of the game, including texts, to strengthen the atmosphere and make every character interaction memorable.
Version 0.11B will also feature Chapter 2 in Act 2, however the main quest won’t be available yet. Since the Head Girl has returned in Chapter 1, we’ve created a sort of sandbox mode in Chapter 2 until the main storyline is introduced in 0.12A. This sandbox lets you complete side content and quests that were temporarily unavailable due to the Head Girl’s absence. We want players to enjoy all available quests before we add the main story content.
For version 0.12A, we’re continuing to write texts and create the art needed for the story events. Crafting a quality story takes time and attention to detail, so we’re meticulously working on every dialogue line and plot twist. As mentioned, 0.11B’s Chapter 2 sandbox helps us test and refine side content while the main story is still in development. This ensures a smoother main story release when it’s ready because the foundation will already be set in place. This step is important as it lets us verify that all game elements work harmoniously before presenting them to players.
In the near future, we plan to implement the side quest involving Blaise Zabini and Hannah Abbott for 0.11B, and work on content for 0.11B and 0.12A in general.
Let’s also look at the previous poll. Most of you haven’t played 0.11A yet, but those who did mostly liked it. This feedback helps us keep the game development on track to please as many players as possible. We’re also collecting critique and comments about the game, so your opinions are always noticed and considered.
Now, a new poll. This time, we would like to hear your thoughts on the news that come out every 10 days and their format. We’re looking to experiment with how much information we share and how often. Our main goal is to find the best news format that doesn’t feel overloaded and is easy to read. This is specifically about the text part; the amount of art in the news will stay the same.
What news format works best for you?
- I’d like more concise and focused news with the main development info and plans.
- The current format is fine, but I’m open to changes.
- I don’t really care about the news format as long as they come out regularly.
- I want to see the results.
We’ll meet again soon. Until then, stay safe and have fun!
Peace✌
Your,
Sad crabs.
